Sorry, but if 2-4GB System Memory is required for good performance, than the Mac contingent has no legs to stand on to argue that Windows is "bloatware"
Well, IBM doesn't publish "max" numbers, just "typical". Motorola publishes both "typical" and "max" numbers, but it doesn't seem like Motorola's "typical" corresponds with IBM's.
Anyways, Motorola's 7447 1.3 GHz is 21.3 Watts typical and 30 Watts max, which leads me to believe that a 90 nm low power 1.6 GHz G5 would likely work fine.
That's assuming the system controller for the G5 in a laptop was also low power. (They could make a laptop system controller for only 1 CPU and single channel memory and then shrink it, for power savings.)
Another keyboarding tip. In System Preferences, click on "Universal Access", view the "Mouse" tab and enable "Mouse Keys". I find this helpful when I'm web browsing and need to click a link but it's 50 links deep into the web page, and I don't feel like using the mouse. What this does is let you control the mouse pointer with the numeric keypad on your keyboard. It's not helpful on Apple laptops as they do not have this keypad.
Well, IBM doesn't publish "max" numbers, just "typical". Motorola publishes both "typical" and "max" numbers, but it doesn't seem like Motorola's "typical" corresponds with IBM's.
Anyways, Motorola's 7447 1.3 GHz is 21.3 Watts typical and 30 Watts max, which leads me to believe that a 90 nm low power 1.6 GHz G5 would likely work fine.
That's assuming the system controller for the G5 in a laptop was also low power. (They could make a laptop system controller for only 1 CPU and single channel memory and then shrink it, for power savings.)
Eug, what are the specs on G4s in the similar speed range(1.4ghz G4's, 1ghz G4's, etc)? My interest here is to see all other things equal, what could Apple get away with G5 wise in puting in a PowerBook. If they can't get too far past 1.4ghz, they may have issues, since the 1.33ghz G4 is a pretty strong chip on its own.
I am just as excited as the next guy about the prospect of a PowerBook G5, but you are misquoting specs. The voltage at 1.4GHz is something like 11.4V, not 1V. I wish I could find the damn article but I can't. Still, at 2GHz its down from 55W to 25.5W or something similar. The G5 and its successors are going to be a major force to be reckoned with in the near future.
Yep, the 970FX is shaping up to be one hell of a chip. I thought it'd be a while before we saw a PowerBook G5, but it looks like it'll appear sooner than later. IBM certainly aren't pulling any punches with the 970. It debuted strongly, and the technology looks to be maturing rather well. It's a good bet that we'll see 3 GHz G5's when Steve said we would. If that happens, I'll snatch one up with a little student loan-age. :)
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Anonymous - Saturday, February 14, 2004 - link
Sorry, but if 2-4GB System Memory is required for good performance, than the Mac contingent has no legs to stand on to argue that Windows is "bloatware"Eug - Saturday, February 14, 2004 - link
Well, IBM doesn't publish "max" numbers, just "typical". Motorola publishes both "typical" and "max" numbers, but it doesn't seem like Motorola's "typical" corresponds with IBM's.Anyways, Motorola's 7447 1.3 GHz is 21.3 Watts typical and 30 Watts max, which leads me to believe that a 90 nm low power 1.6 GHz G5 would likely work fine.
That's assuming the system controller for the G5 in a laptop was also low power. (They could make a laptop system controller for only 1 CPU and single channel memory and then shrink it, for power savings.)
GL - Saturday, February 14, 2004 - link
Another keyboarding tip. In System Preferences, click on "Universal Access", view the "Mouse" tab and enable "Mouse Keys". I find this helpful when I'm web browsing and need to click a link but it's 50 links deep into the web page, and I don't feel like using the mouse. What this does is let you control the mouse pointer with the numeric keypad on your keyboard. It's not helpful on Apple laptops as they do not have this keypad.Eug - Saturday, February 14, 2004 - link
Well, IBM doesn't publish "max" numbers, just "typical". Motorola publishes both "typical" and "max" numbers, but it doesn't seem like Motorola's "typical" corresponds with IBM's.Anyways, Motorola's 7447 1.3 GHz is 21.3 Watts typical and 30 Watts max, which leads me to believe that a 90 nm low power 1.6 GHz G5 would likely work fine.
That's assuming the system controller for the G5 in a laptop was also low power. (They could make a laptop system controller for only 1 CPU and single channel memory and then shrink it, for power savings.)
ViRGE - Saturday, February 14, 2004 - link
Eug, what are the specs on G4s in the similar speed range(1.4ghz G4's, 1ghz G4's, etc)? My interest here is to see all other things equal, what could Apple get away with G5 wise in puting in a PowerBook. If they can't get too far past 1.4ghz, they may have issues, since the 1.33ghz G4 is a pretty strong chip on its own.Brent S - Saturday, February 14, 2004 - link
ahhhhhhhhh. that makes more sense. thanks for the clarification. i couldn't find that damn article.Eug - Saturday, February 14, 2004 - link
Oh and PPC 970FX 2.5 GHz is supposedly 52 Watts typical. I dunno the voltage but maybe we'll find out Monday.And Happy Valentines Day! :)
Eug - Saturday, February 14, 2004 - link
PPC 970FX 1.4 GHz is 1.0 V and 12.3 Watts typical.PPC 970FX 2.0 GHz is 1.3 V and 24.5 Watts typical.
PPC 970 2.0 GHz 130 nm is 1.3 V and 51 Watts typical.
Brent S - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link
I am just as excited as the next guy about the prospect of a PowerBook G5, but you are misquoting specs. The voltage at 1.4GHz is something like 11.4V, not 1V. I wish I could find the damn article but I can't. Still, at 2GHz its down from 55W to 25.5W or something similar. The G5 and its successors are going to be a major force to be reckoned with in the near future.Damien Sorresso - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link
Yep, the 970FX is shaping up to be one hell of a chip. I thought it'd be a while before we saw a PowerBook G5, but it looks like it'll appear sooner than later. IBM certainly aren't pulling any punches with the 970. It debuted strongly, and the technology looks to be maturing rather well. It's a good bet that we'll see 3 GHz G5's when Steve said we would. If that happens, I'll snatch one up with a little student loan-age. :)